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#136 - Used to Love It

Monday, April 7th, 2008

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  1. samantha kyle Says:

    Oh my!

  2. irrational_moon Says:

    urgh. Tina is getting revenge…

    I feel they’re all horrible people…

  3. irrational_moon Says:

    Except Johan. He’s the only good one in the lot. The rest of them are selfish and mean and inconsiderate bad people.

  4. Aurs Says:

    No. Everyone is a good person. And everyone is a horrible person. It totally sucks, but that’s how it is.

    I hate it how even in real life, as soon as I start to get to know someone and think they are a good person, they do something really douchebaggy that makes me hate them, but in every other aspect they are a good person, so I can’t decide if OVERALL they’re a good person or not.

  5. patricia Says:

    I wonder what the relationship is between johann and tina? we know they have a kind of mutual history, but you’d think that since tina’s family took johann and maria in for some time, they’d have more of sibling relationship than a sexual one like tina is suggesting here. unless I’m missing something?

    either way! it’s an interesting direction.

  6. Stef Says:

    Tina’s releasing the dragon that’s been sleeping inside her.
    And I like what I see.

  7. Alabaster Crippens Says:

    Too used to being used I fear.

    Conflicted.

  8. JayDub Says:

    And in five minutes, Johan will be fucking a crazy.

  9. Fnord Says:

    Will I have my head ripped off by the other fanboys/girls (I’d include myself there, in fact) if I point out that for my taste the latest strips go a bit too much into soap territory?

  10. Rene Engström Says:

    Oh Fnord, it’s always been a soap opera! :P

  11. Elizabeth L. Says:

    Haha.

    Oh what a tangled web we weave, Rene.

  12. Duke-Thane Says:

    patricia: I bet when they were younger Johan walk in on tina coming out of the shower or something and kept doing that “by accident” and Tina probabily felt some sort of weird power from it.

  13. Duke-Thane Says:

    add on to last comment: Then Tina might have taken it to far and that’s why John and Maria are pissed at her…this is all just an uneducated guess though

  14. Mike Says:

    Johan is admirably loyal to Maria, but he also has a kind of creepy follower vibe at times and was also really horrid to Anders long before anything started (even assuming that it wasn’t still pretty crazy and uncool to do what they did to Tina/Anders that drove events on the night Anders really screwed up). After all, Anders actually somewhat got to where he was because in spite of his general peacefulness he acted in a kind of brave and rash manner when he saw Maria being attacked. He was then essentially called a useless pussy over and over by Johan even before he’d done anything. While just as with everyone else in this story Anders obviously has a lot to apologize for, Johan was awfully crappy to him earlier.

    That doesn’t change what’s happened since, of course, or the fact that TIna does seem like she’s also going to do something…rather less than completely kind now. Of course, at this point, both major characters and many of the minor ones have been pushed by events to act pretty rashly and nastily to other folks, so it’s not like Tina’s alone in this.

  15. Ashley Kromarek Says:

    Yes, yes she fucking is Johan. Don’t do it!!!!

  16. Sam Says:

    Woooooooooooaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!!! Of all the possibilities for this comic floating around in my head, the last half was definitely not part of it.

  17. Dolyn Says:

    I miss Maria =(

  18. Caroline Says:

    I think Johan won’t do it *nods*

  19. Taeshi Says:

    Hahahah, Tina you whore.

    Didn’t Johan already suggest this idea to Maria when she was flipping out about it? I don’t think Johan would go back on what his sister clearly indicated as a cruel idea.

    Also oh god if there is more sex in this sex comic (WITH JOHAN NOOOOoo) I am going to jump a bridge.

  20. Hec Says:

    What ever it takes to put anders’ junk in a meat tenderizer.

  21. Dawnage Says:

    Holy shit, Tina IS fucking crazy! And much more mean-spirited and conniving that I had previously thought. Way to morph from a victim to a victimizer.

  22. Wes Says:

    Bam.

    Take it, Anders.

  23. Lindsay Says:

    Oh noooooooooooooooo!

    This comic keeps sucking me in further dammit. I love it, you magnificent bastard.

  24. Amanda Says:

    this would explain that crabs comment from this page

    god I hope this thing supports html

  25. Annabeth Says:

    o_O… *head explodes*

  26. Genevieve Says:

    ….Maybe Johan used Tina first? Or Tina used Johan. It may have even been to the point where the two were in a relationship of some sort and her parents found out and kicked Maria and Johan out because of the not-quite-incest going on. Possibly (because Tina is doing it now and I like patterns) she and Johan were dating on the DL so her parents wouldn’t find out, and then when Johan left her/she made Johan choose between her and Maria, Tina told her parents or left evidence and that led to Johan and Maria having to leave.

    Or maybe, Maria turned to Bjorn in the first place because of jealousy that her brother wasn’t paying as much attention to her, or even out of revenge because since she was young, she actually saw Tina as a sister. The deep-seated emotional issues continued because no one really ever came clean with each other, or they did but didn’t really know what to do… If this were the case, it seems more likely Maria wouldn’t come clean because honestly she seems very quiet or shy about herself and her own feelings…

    Maybe Tina is just pulling this out of her ass and she is entirely a lunatic!

    As for the “Anders is a pussy” comments, I think it’s because in general Johan just disapproves of Anders as a person. Anders is very “blue blood” and bourgeoisie, and Maria’s family is very working class and dysfunctional. It could be a jealousy thing, or even, if he’s very perceptive, that Johan knows Maria hasn’t really opened up to Anders and Anders hasn’t (as far as we’ve seen) shown enough interest to pursue information about her or her family. Probably it’s also because of Maria’s hesitance and embarrassment to tell Anders about her family in general; her excuse to her family might be that Anders wouldn’t be able to take it, thus, “pussy”.

    It could also be because Anders got his ass handed to him!!

  27. Craig Says:

    or maybe this or maybe that… we’ll just have to wait and see!

  28. zee Says:

    my word. to think i ever felt sorry for tina. who knew she had this conniving back-bone hidden away! well, at least she is finally seeing through her anders delusion.

  29. Duke-Thane Says:

    I’m just glad we can finally see why they hate her so much!

  30. Sarah Says:

    …I want Anders to get a good thrashing! Goshdarnit!

  31. Christine Says:

    Potential buyer…Anders is getting blackmailed. And its probably going to cause all sorts of shit with his trial. And Maria. Woah…

  32. Indigno Says:

    Maybe Tina tried to use Maria :O.

    Johan won’t do it, he holds a grudge too well to do that. Besides, he’s interested in Anders, duh.

  33. Megtastic Says:

    Wow, this puts an entirely new perspective on Little Miss Eager-to-please, doesn’t it?

    Speaking as someone with older brothers one of whom has both teased my boyfriends and threatened to beat one particular ex up, I can understand Johan’s behavior. He was mean to Anders, yes, but that might have been a way to see if Anders was good enough for Maria. (I don’t recall Maria ever telling Johan about the incident, but if I’m mistaken please forgive me). So, when Anders slept with Tina the first time, I feel Johan was completely right to kick Anders’ ass. He’s being protective of his little sister as he’s always done.

    Of course, everyone here is a little blame. Maria is to blame for letting a childhood grudge (petty or not) stay with her for so long. Johan is to blame for spray-painting Tina’s house (that was him, wasn’t it?). Anders is to blame for sleeping with Tina and generally being an idiot. And Tina is to blame for sleeping with Anders despite the fact that she knew (or thought) that Anders was still with Maria.

    Actually, now that I think about it, all of it is Yumi’s fault. If she hadn’t pointed out Ass-Man to Maria, none of this would have happened. Dammit, Yumi.

  34. Mike Says:

    Genevieve, I think you’re certainly right about those factors playing into how Johan saw Anders. After all, when Maria was complaining about Tina she talked about Anders as if the class thing was not at all minor for her. That said, I understand that Johan has his reasons, but he was still really awful to Anders, reasons or no (and to some extent Maria didn’t really give Anders the support I think he was looking for when Johan and Maria’s father were treating Anders badly). If Anders had been feeling better about himself it might have all passed off like typical banter, but that’s the kind of talk that can have a real edge if someone is already feeling lousy (as I think Anders was).

    Anders has actually been getting nothing but physical and emotional ass-kickings off and on for some time now, though I have a feeling that whether they are real or metaphorical the beatings of Anders are going to continue for at least a bit longer before things improve.

  35. Chuck Says:

    MAN-EATER!!

    PENIS-EATER!!!

    Can i have ur cellphone Tina? :3

    Interestinnnng!!!! Let’s see how it ends.

  36. Duke-Thane Says:

    All these arguments are fair but let’s be honest. Anders is a pussy, not gonna lie.

  37. Tess Says:

    Ah, so this is why Johan kissed Anders.

  38. Joe Says:

    Johan wins the best one liner award.

  39. Ally Says:

    Tina:”Anders! It’s a conspiracy! Maria and Johan are trying to sell our sex tape to the media! But don’t worry cause I stopped them.”
    Anders: “My God! In an unusual twist that i didn’t see coming i realise that i do in fact love you and am willing to become the man you always wanted! Oh Tina!”
    Tina: “Yay! No more Borking!”

    Please don’t let this be her cunning plan.

  40. Hannah Says:

    You know with the exception of beating the crap out of him-Johan has never actually been ‘mean’ to Anders. I reread through the archives and he just never spoke to him. As far as the graffiti and videotaping Anders screwing Tina-she seems just as likely to be the one he’s targeting.

    Maria ALWAYS said she hated Tina and we never actually learn why-I think that Tina isn’t ‘nice’, I don’t think all of Maria’s aggression towards her is misplaced foster-sister-hate. I think Tina maybe a girl who is quite calculating, spiteful and spoiled. I think we maybe seeing the real Tina for the first time-and she’s totally recognizable to me!

    As for Johan…I have high hopes that he will, out of respect/love for Maria, protect the father of his sister’s baby. Then again-I’m pretty cool with anything Johan does because he is my hero.

  41. ashley Says:

    is it bad that my opinion of tina has just gone way up?

  42. Madonna Says:

    I KILL YOU, TINA. AWAY FROM JOHAN. NOW.

    I have never been so desperate to be a cartoon character just so that I could kill someone. I despise women like Tina. Who use their bodies to get what they want, and then have the audacity to cry when they get used.

    STABBITY STAB STAB.

  43. Cheap Shot Says:

    I concur Duke-Thane!

  44. shivam Says:

    wait, what? isn’t tina johan’s half sister?

  45. Holly Says:

    Shivam, they were foster siblings for a while, but they’re not blood related. As far as we know. *shifty eyes*

  46. Brett Says:

    Even if he doesn’t like Anders before or after the cheating, why would Johan want to embarass his blood sister by showing the father of her child (and son of a well known person) borking a slut. Even if it would make him a lot of money

    Remember Anders at least takes beatings without charging people and having them arrested. Can we at least agree that the only true asshole was Lars?

  47. Brett Says:

    btw i love using bork instead of the f word, than you Rene!

  48. Qwil man Says:

    I wish I could describe the face I made when I read this comic.

  49. Rebecca Says:

    I love the way her eye is popping out from behind her hair like that. Makes her look particularly insanely desperate.

  50. christina Says:

    Johan, you speak only truth.

  51. Freezer Says:

    No one in this strip has an emotional middle gear, do they?

  52. Freezer Says:

    Or, now that I think about it, reverse (as in “Step back, take a minute and calm down)

  53. Antsan Says:

    Now, that seems interesting.

  54. Kat Says:

    Amen, Christina. He is a good guy.

  55. Dain Says:

    I don’t get it!

  56. Meaghan Says:

    I think we are seeing the not-so-sweet side of Tina that is the reason Maria hates her, and the side that Anders refused to believe existed when he petulantly went to work for his girlfriend’s old bully.

    I adore Johan. Don’t do it!

  57. Neeksy_Magnusson Says:

    I think Tina finally got pushed to the edge. She gets treated like crap by him, physically abused by him, and then finds out the shallowness of his affection for her in the most crass way possible. Not to say this somehow makes her actions okay, but it does make me understand them.

  58. Alexander Says:

    I think Tina was planing this all along!

  59. Ashley Kromarek Says:

    @ zee: I knew she was crazy and conniving the entire time.
    Check out the evil pissed off face in the last panel of 088. Am I the only person who remembers how crazy she looked the morning after when Anders was no longer under the influence and fucking her?
    Plus all the lurking she does every time Anders is on the phone.. Ew.
    And she has no friends at all in this town, she is never seen with anyone at all - small towns know who the crazy girl is and they stay the fuck away from her.

    I am with Hannah on multiple points but if he bones Tina, Johan will lose all of my respect. Blegh.

  60. zef Says:

    Tina’s left eye (hers) looks like it is upside down. I think the black line is meant to be her nose, but it looks wrong with the eye bulging over like that.

    Also as I am finally posting this has to be said:

    90% of those who comment here are a bunch of fucking emotionally retarded twats. You are all getting way to cut up over this comic. Glad that the comments are now not directly below the comic, so I don’t feel the desire to put you out of my misery every time I check this comic.

  61. KevN Says:

    Has anyone else noticed that Tina said she already had a potential buyer? So she’d decided to visit Johan before she’d even left the house. How did she find a buyer so fast otherwise? Tina has been planning this for awhile, but Johan won’t sell Anders down the river. He’s been the protective big brother for so long , and I don’t think hes going to help out Tina… Who Maria already had beef with for whatever reason… Even if Tina does offer to let him bork her.

  62. Olga Says:

    I’m glad I stuck to my hating her guns. She was spineless for her own sick reasons.

    I love it!! LOVE. IT!

  63. Rosie Says:

    I wonder.. does this mean Anders is going to get borked over out of all this at last?

    :D

  64. Mandiiv Says:

    Ahaha, oh wow. I’m kinda happy to see this side of Tina — whether its her true nature throughout or just her ‘evil side.’ Either way, its nice to see more of her character beyond getting googly puppy eyes over Anders (as adorable as that is).

    … also, foster-brother and foster-sister action? Interesting! Wonder if that counts as some sort of taboo. It would explain alot! Does that mean its flashback-time to younger Johan and Tina entangled? Oh, my, the sexually-repressed would have a fit. That would amuse me. Yes. I encourage more 2D sex scenes if only for this. *drums fingers together*

  65. Koosh Koosh! Says:

    Johan is the best. Seriously. Hahaha.

    But yeah, Tina is absolutely desperate now. Very depressing to see. Hopefully, Johan will snap her out of this.

    And not with his dick.

  66. Lauren Says:

    Wow. This comic really puts into perspective Anders’ last line.
    “She’s just so nice”

    pfft

  67. Cecilia Says:

    I’m not so sure the people praising Johan is the awesome will always think so. He has done a few bad things, but those things can be justified in a lot of minds because of his protective feelings for Maria. The thing I love about this comic is that everyone has a good side and a terrible side, it makes them more real, more human. There are no heroes, just people, people that live their lives and occasionally screw up, sometimes in big big ways.

  68. TonyG Says:

    blah blah more human blah.

    Johan is a superhero. HE CAN DO NO WRONG.

    AND I SAY, FUCK TINA AND SNAP HER IN HALF

  69. PHDrillSergeant Says:

    Clearly, Johan’s powers stem from his mystical Unibrow.

    Also, If you’re into comics featuring sexy people, I recommend Girly. They just celebrated 5 years. Also has lesbians. http://girlyyy.com

  70. Rene Engström Says:

    I love Girly. So hard. It’s in my links.

  71. BG Says:

    Could that “bitch” part of Tina that Maria toted for so long be actually true?

  72. Caroline Says:

    Oooo why am I thinking Bjorn may have a hand in this? Something went down with the two blondies in the past…

    Lol i love my super-powered paranoia :)

  73. Joy Says:

    I’m so glad that Johan took a stand. No wonder why Maria doesn’t like her– she is vindictive!

  74. Alisa Says:

    I knew I hated Tina for a good reason, I feel bad for even feeling sorry for her a bit. Hmm, I also wonder if something like this was the reason Johan and Maria stopped living with her family…I can’t wait for tomorrow…EEEeee.

  75. Nathan Says:

    Oh sweet dramady! (comedy-drama)

  76. Wixenstyx Says:

    It’s funny… In the fourth panel, I mistook Tina’s hair for her mouth, and it made her face look more devious than it actually does.

    It’s nice to see that Tina is a deeper character than she’s let on until now.

  77. Antsan Says:

    I mistook her hair for her nose and her nose for a twitching eye.

  78. Mista J Says:

    I won’t be disappointed in Johan if he gives in to temptation and bones Tina.

    I will be disappointed if he goes along with the blackmailing because of how it could hurt Maria. In my opinion he seems to honest to do that.

    I have really gotten drawn into this little world you write. Good comic!

  79. Mary Says:

    they are all like the greek gods, spiteful and honorable and good and stupid, all at the same time!
    and thusly, fascinating :D
    something about us humans that are obsessed about the doomed escapades of others.

  80. GobbleStabler Says:

    WOAH!
    I cannot BELIEVE Tina would do that! She is really a total psycho.

  81. katie Says:

    yaaaaaay! go johan!

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